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‘Trash takes itself out every single time,’ singer says of her triumph over disgraced rapper

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Taylor Swift says she had to move to a foreign country and was afraid to get on phone calls after her feud with Kim Kardashian and Kanye West intensified seven years ago when she was “cancelled within an inch of my life and sanity.”

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“Make no mistake my career was taken away from me,” Swift said in a rare interview after she was named Time’s 2023 Person of the Year. “You have a fully manufactured frame job, in an illegally recorded phone call, which Kim Kardashian edited and then put out to say to everyone that I was a liar. That took me down psychologically to a place I’ve never been before. I moved to a foreign country. I didn’t leave a rental house for a year. I was afraid to get on phone calls. I pushed away most people in my life because I didn’t trust anyone anymore. I went down really, really hard.”

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Swift was referencing a bit in West’s 2016 song Famous, in which he rapped the line, “I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex/ Why? I made that bitch famous,” and maintained that she was fine with it.

West’s then-wife Kardashian leaked an edited recording that seemed to imply Swift had given her consent to him using the word “bitch.” Swift told Time the moment made it feel like her career was finished.

“I had all the hyenas climb on and take their shots,” she said, as others called her “a snake.”

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Taylor Swift, with her cat Benjamin Button, on the cover of Time as the 2023 Person of the Year. Photo by Time

In the past, the Cruel Summer singer has opened up about her reaction to the lyric and her history with West, which stemmed from an infamous moment when he stormed the stage at the 2009 MTV VMAs and declared she didn’t deserve to win.

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But she told TIME that all she “ever wanted my whole career after that thing happened in 2009 was for him to respect me.

“When someone doesn’t respect you so loudly and says you literally don’t deserve to be here — I just so badly wanted that respect from him, and I hate that about myself, that I was like, ‘This guy who’s antagonizing me, I just want his approval.’ But that’s where I was,” she said.

For her part, Kardashian weighed in on the issue in 2020, tweeting: “To be clear, the only issue I ever had around the situation was that Taylor lied through her publicist who stated that ‘Kanye never called to ask for permission …’ They clearly spoke so I let you all see that. Nobody ever denied the word ‘bitch’ was used without her permission.”

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Kim Kardashian and Kanye West attend the Vanity Fair Oscar party in Beverly Hills during the 92nd Academy Awards, in Los Angeles, Feb. 9, 2020. Photo by Danny Moloshok /REUTERS

But Swift told the outlet that the backlash to her dust-up with Kim and Kanye along with Scooter Braun’s acquisition of her masters helped fuel her desire to go out on the road this year with her wildly successful Eras Tour.

“It’s not lost on me that the two great catalysts for this happening were two horrendous things that happened to me,” she said. “The first was getting cancelled within an inch of my life and sanity … The second was having my life’s work taken away from me by someone who hates me.”

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Taylor Swift performs at Paycor Stadium in Cincinnati. Photo by Getty Images

After Braun acquired her masters, Swift announced that she would re-record her past albums, a move that has proven popular with her fans.

“With the Scooter thing, my masters were being sold to someone who actively wanted them for nefarious reasons, in my opinion,” Swift told Time. “I was so knocked on my a– by the sale of my music, and to whom it was sold. I was like, ‘Oh, they got me beat now. This is it. I don’t know what to do.’”

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But as the tides have turned for West and Braun (the former lost his endorsement deals with Adidas and others after he made anti-Semitic remarks last year, while the latter has seen many of his high-profile clients exit his management company), Swift has been remained “grateful” for her career.

“Nothing is permanent. So I’m very careful to be grateful every second that I get to be doing this at this level, because I’ve had it taken away from me before. There is one thing I’ve learned: My response to anything that happens, good or bad, is to keep making things. Keep making art. But I’ve also learned there’s no point in actively trying to quote-unquote defeat your enemies. Trash takes itself out every single time.”

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‘Trash takes itself out every single time,’ singer says of her triumph over disgraced rapper

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Taylor Swift says she had to move to a foreign country and was afraid to get on phone calls after her feud with Kim Kardashian and Kanye West intensified seven years ago when she was “cancelled within an inch of my life and sanity.”

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“Make no mistake my career was taken away from me,” Swift said in a rare interview after she was named Time’s 2023 Person of the Year. “You have a fully manufactured frame job, in an illegally recorded phone call, which Kim Kardashian edited and then put out to say to everyone that I was a liar. That took me down psychologically to a place I’ve never been before. I moved to a foreign country. I didn’t leave a rental house for a year. I was afraid to get on phone calls. I pushed away most people in my life because I didn’t trust anyone anymore. I went down really, really hard.”

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Swift was referencing a bit in West’s 2016 song Famous, in which he rapped the line, “I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex/ Why? I made that bitch famous,” and maintained that she was fine with it.

West’s then-wife Kardashian leaked an edited recording that seemed to imply Swift had given her consent to him using the word “bitch.” Swift told Time the moment made it feel like her career was finished.

“I had all the hyenas climb on and take their shots,” she said, as others called her “a snake.”

Taylor and Benjamin Button
Taylor Swift, with her cat Benjamin Button, on the cover of Time as the 2023 Person of the Year. Photo by Time

In the past, the Cruel Summer singer has opened up about her reaction to the lyric and her history with West, which stemmed from an infamous moment when he stormed the stage at the 2009 MTV VMAs and declared she didn’t deserve to win.

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But she told TIME that all she “ever wanted my whole career after that thing happened in 2009 was for him to respect me.

“When someone doesn’t respect you so loudly and says you literally don’t deserve to be here — I just so badly wanted that respect from him, and I hate that about myself, that I was like, ‘This guy who’s antagonizing me, I just want his approval.’ But that’s where I was,” she said.

For her part, Kardashian weighed in on the issue in 2020, tweeting: “To be clear, the only issue I ever had around the situation was that Taylor lied through her publicist who stated that ‘Kanye never called to ask for permission …’ They clearly spoke so I let you all see that. Nobody ever denied the word ‘bitch’ was used without her permission.”

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Kim Kardashian and Kanye West
Kim Kardashian and Kanye West attend the Vanity Fair Oscar party in Beverly Hills during the 92nd Academy Awards, in Los Angeles, Feb. 9, 2020. Photo by Danny Moloshok /REUTERS

But Swift told the outlet that the backlash to her dust-up with Kim and Kanye along with Scooter Braun’s acquisition of her masters helped fuel her desire to go out on the road this year with her wildly successful Eras Tour.

“It’s not lost on me that the two great catalysts for this happening were two horrendous things that happened to me,” she said. “The first was getting cancelled within an inch of my life and sanity … The second was having my life’s work taken away from me by someone who hates me.”

Taylor Swift Eras Tour
Taylor Swift performs at Paycor Stadium in Cincinnati. Photo by Getty Images

After Braun acquired her masters, Swift announced that she would re-record her past albums, a move that has proven popular with her fans.

“With the Scooter thing, my masters were being sold to someone who actively wanted them for nefarious reasons, in my opinion,” Swift told Time. “I was so knocked on my a– by the sale of my music, and to whom it was sold. I was like, ‘Oh, they got me beat now. This is it. I don’t know what to do.’”

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But as the tides have turned for West and Braun (the former lost his endorsement deals with Adidas and others after he made anti-Semitic remarks last year, while the latter has seen many of his high-profile clients exit his management company), Swift has been remained “grateful” for her career.

“Nothing is permanent. So I’m very careful to be grateful every second that I get to be doing this at this level, because I’ve had it taken away from me before. There is one thing I’ve learned: My response to anything that happens, good or bad, is to keep making things. Keep making art. But I’ve also learned there’s no point in actively trying to quote-unquote defeat your enemies. Trash takes itself out every single time.”

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