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‘You’re aware of your own mortality from quite an early age — it’s not something that occurs to you in your 70s,’ legendary rocker says in new interview

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As the Rolling Stones get rolling again with a new album, Mick Jagger is reflecting on mortality and the loss of band member Charlie Watts in 2021.

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“I hate to say this: as you get older, a lot of your friends die,” Jagger, 80, says in a new interview with The Guardian. “It doesn’t get easier at all. There’s a lot of people around your age, they’re dying all the time. I don’t have any friends older than me, only one. Apart from the band, all my friends are much younger … It’s easier that way.”

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But Jagger says that he’s lived with the knowledge that his time on Earth is finite for many years.

“You’re aware of your own mortality from quite an early age — it’s not something that occurs to you in your 70s,” he explains.

Watts appears on two tracks — Mess It Up and Live by the Sword — on the Stones’ new album, Hackney Diamonds, their first record of new material since 2005’s A Bigger Bang.

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“It’s a couple of years now, and I still think about Charlie a lot. I think about him when I’m playing, and what he would have played; whether he’d have liked this song, because I’d always bounce things off him. I’d be playing him the silly pop songs of the moment, and he’d love all that.”

Watts helped select his replacement, Steve Jordan, before his death at age 80 in August 2021.

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Mick Jagger, Ronnie Wood, Charlie Watts and Keith Richards of The Rolling Stones perform onstage at Rose Bowl on August 22, 2019 in Pasadena, California. Photo by Kevin Winter /Getty Images

After taking 18 years to record an album’s worth of new material, Jagger says Watts drummed on several more unreleased tracks which will “probably come out.”

“So he’s kind of still there — and I hope he likes the rest of the record.”

Led by the hard-charging first single Angry, critics have praised Hackney Diamonds, with The Washington Post calling the new set of songs “fresh.”

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“[Keith] Richards, 79, and [Ron] Wood, 76, make their guitars bark and bang with a finesse eternally masquerading as rudeness, while Jagger, 80, sounds as hot, bothered, alert and connected as ever,” Chris Richards wrote in his review.

The Associated Press called the LP “their best new work in decades — tight, focused, full of heart and swagger.”

“I don’t want to be big-headed but we wouldn’t have put this album out if we hadn’t really liked it,” Jagger said last month at an album-launch event that was livestreamed from London. “We said we had to make a record we really love ourselves.”

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The Rolling Stones L-R: Ron Wood, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. Photo by Mark Seliger /Universal Music Group

Eighteen years after their last studio album of all original material, the legendary rocker told WSJ Magazine that he gave his bandmates a deadline to record Hackney Diamonds.

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“What I want to do is write some songs, go into the studio and finish the record by Valentine’s Day,” Jagger recalled saying to lead guitarist Keith Richards. “Which was just a day I picked out of the hat — but everyone can remember it. And then we’ll go on tour with it, the way we used to.”

Richards thought the band could never hit Jagger’s hard target.

“I said, ‘It may never happen, Keith, but that’s the aim. We’re going to have a f***ing deadline,’” Jagger said. “Otherwise, we’re just going to go into the studio, for two weeks, and come out again, and then six weeks later, we’re going to go back in there. Like, no. Let’s make a deadline.”

Elsewhere in his WSJ interview, Jagger said the Stones will keep rolling after all the band members are gone.

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“You can have a posthumous business now, can’t you? You can have a posthumous tour,” he noted. “The technology has really moved on since the ABBA thing (the Swedish band’s virtual concert).”

When asked what the future of the band is, Richards told BBC Radio 4’s Today program that “it’s going to end sometime.” But in a separate chat with Matt Wilkinson on Apple Music 1 the guitar icon conceded that the Stones could continue to roll as holograms long after they’re gone.

“I certainly wouldn’t rule it out. I’m pretty sure that is bound to happen. Do I want it? Now, that’s another thing. I don’t know if I want to hang around that long, man. But at the same time, it won’t be up to me, will it?”

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‘You’re aware of your own mortality from quite an early age — it’s not something that occurs to you in your 70s,’ legendary rocker says in new interview

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As the Rolling Stones get rolling again with a new album, Mick Jagger is reflecting on mortality and the loss of band member Charlie Watts in 2021.

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“I hate to say this: as you get older, a lot of your friends die,” Jagger, 80, says in a new interview with The Guardian. “It doesn’t get easier at all. There’s a lot of people around your age, they’re dying all the time. I don’t have any friends older than me, only one. Apart from the band, all my friends are much younger … It’s easier that way.”

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But Jagger says that he’s lived with the knowledge that his time on Earth is finite for many years.

“You’re aware of your own mortality from quite an early age — it’s not something that occurs to you in your 70s,” he explains.

Watts appears on two tracks — Mess It Up and Live by the Sword — on the Stones’ new album, Hackney Diamonds, their first record of new material since 2005’s A Bigger Bang.

Article content

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“It’s a couple of years now, and I still think about Charlie a lot. I think about him when I’m playing, and what he would have played; whether he’d have liked this song, because I’d always bounce things off him. I’d be playing him the silly pop songs of the moment, and he’d love all that.”

Watts helped select his replacement, Steve Jordan, before his death at age 80 in August 2021.

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Mick Jagger, Ronnie Wood, Charlie Watts and Keith Richards of The Rolling Stones perform onstage at Rose Bowl on August 22, 2019 in Pasadena, California. Photo by Kevin Winter /Getty Images

After taking 18 years to record an album’s worth of new material, Jagger says Watts drummed on several more unreleased tracks which will “probably come out.”

“So he’s kind of still there — and I hope he likes the rest of the record.”

Led by the hard-charging first single Angry, critics have praised Hackney Diamonds, with The Washington Post calling the new set of songs “fresh.”

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Article content

We apologize, but this video has failed to load.

“[Keith] Richards, 79, and [Ron] Wood, 76, make their guitars bark and bang with a finesse eternally masquerading as rudeness, while Jagger, 80, sounds as hot, bothered, alert and connected as ever,” Chris Richards wrote in his review.

The Associated Press called the LP “their best new work in decades — tight, focused, full of heart and swagger.”

“I don’t want to be big-headed but we wouldn’t have put this album out if we hadn’t really liked it,” Jagger said last month at an album-launch event that was livestreamed from London. “We said we had to make a record we really love ourselves.”

Rolling Stones
The Rolling Stones L-R: Ron Wood, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. Photo by Mark Seliger /Universal Music Group

Eighteen years after their last studio album of all original material, the legendary rocker told WSJ Magazine that he gave his bandmates a deadline to record Hackney Diamonds.

Advertisement 5

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“What I want to do is write some songs, go into the studio and finish the record by Valentine’s Day,” Jagger recalled saying to lead guitarist Keith Richards. “Which was just a day I picked out of the hat — but everyone can remember it. And then we’ll go on tour with it, the way we used to.”

Richards thought the band could never hit Jagger’s hard target.

“I said, ‘It may never happen, Keith, but that’s the aim. We’re going to have a f***ing deadline,’” Jagger said. “Otherwise, we’re just going to go into the studio, for two weeks, and come out again, and then six weeks later, we’re going to go back in there. Like, no. Let’s make a deadline.”

Elsewhere in his WSJ interview, Jagger said the Stones will keep rolling after all the band members are gone.

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“You can have a posthumous business now, can’t you? You can have a posthumous tour,” he noted. “The technology has really moved on since the ABBA thing (the Swedish band’s virtual concert).”

When asked what the future of the band is, Richards told BBC Radio 4’s Today program that “it’s going to end sometime.” But in a separate chat with Matt Wilkinson on Apple Music 1 the guitar icon conceded that the Stones could continue to roll as holograms long after they’re gone.

“I certainly wouldn’t rule it out. I’m pretty sure that is bound to happen. Do I want it? Now, that’s another thing. I don’t know if I want to hang around that long, man. But at the same time, it won’t be up to me, will it?”

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